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From: Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 05:50:11 -0500
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Subject: Re: NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 5:38 AM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:50 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:04:03AM -0500, Karl wrote:
>> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote:
>> > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:
>> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 PM professor rat <
>> pro2rat@yahoo.com.au>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced
>> the
>> > > peeps
>> > > > > > like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and
>> we've got
>> > > you
>> > > > > > preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling
>> > > what it
>> > > > > > was.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > No no, --I-- get the last word OK?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Can you bend the spy communities if we need?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ha :D CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I'm so bent, I'd only
>> > > manage to straighten it out ;)
>> > >
>> >
>> > I hear a yes!
>>
>> You're just hearing what you want to hear.
>
>
>>
>> > I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to.
>>
>> Please describe this force and/or people forcing you, and how they or it
>> is forcing you, in as much detail as you can.
>>
>
Around 2014 I ran into a use of human trafficking by law enforcement and
something else, to manipulate activists and harm their communities.
I experienced extensive torture and brainwashing to force me into silence.
I am still re-experiencing that.
These re-experiences, during my multi-day psychotic break tonight, holds
the forces and people making me post to this list.
I may be able to find a way to reduce my posting to the list when I don't
want to, by repeatedly expressing the first two paragraphs I just wrote
above, which may work because it associates breaking the silence with the
behavior I am trying to stop.
> It's actually very traumatic. Can you give me the respect of hearing and
> valuing the truth in what I say, whether it be emotional or literal?
>
>
>>
>> > The
>> > words are generally not the ones I want to convey.
>>
>> Then you should consider saying less or nothing at all until your
>> thoughts are clear.
>
>
>> You say very strange things sometimes.
>>
>>
>> > I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I
>> talk
>> > to. I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared to talk
>> about
>> > organized crime and corruption.
>> >
>> > I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy
>> Person" ,
>> > gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the
>> > accreditation process with flying colors. Maybe it would be fun to
>> post a
>> > screenshot.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretly
>> > mind controlling the participants,
>>
>> You sound quite deluded. You might strongly caution yourself against
>> believing that which you cannot verify, and in general you ought advise
>> yourself against attempts to control others in any way other than plain and
>> simple communication which directly engages their conscious mind - talking,
>> emailing, asking simple questions, that sort of thing.
>>
>> Manipulation is manipulation, whatever the name you use -- surely the
>> healthier approach is things like educate, question, possibly inform of
>> some facts, e.g. "are you aware of XYZ?"
>>
>> Some folks call manipulation "black magic" or possibly "white magic" but
>> in both cases, with karmic penalties upon the manipulator. Perhaps
>> consider this.
>>
>>
>> > and failed to attend any crucially
>> > important talks.
>> >
>> > Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_. I
>> could
>> > just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating
>> > torture patterns forever.
>> >
>> > Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't do
>> what
>> > is desired. But doesn't that spread harm? I'm worried it could stress
>> > people. And reveal control, giving me away?
>> >
>> > So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is
>> easier
>> > to cover up.
>> >
>> > And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber
>> about it
>> > everywhere!
>> >
>> > Which is, of course, the actual job. To disrupt the communities without
>> > regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc.
>> >
>> > To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friendly
>> > communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth,
>> as
>> > a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities. Giving them
>> > direction and leadership!
>> >
>> > But I don't think that's a good idea. It could stress and worry people!
>>
>>
>> You sound like a deluded nutcase.
>>
>
> Great. I have proof of a lot of this and want to free a lot of "nutcases"
> who are actually mafia targets.
>
> About a third of the symptoms of schizophrenia are paranoia. Paranoia
> comes from extensive persistent danger.
>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 5:38 AM Karl <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:gmkarl@gmail.com">gmkarl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:50 AM Zenaan H=
arkness <<a href=3D"mailto:zen@freedbms.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">zen@freedbms.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:04:03AM -0500, Karl wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness <<a href=3D"mailto:zen=
@freedbms.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">zen@freedbms=
.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote:<br>
> > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness <<a href=3D=
"mailto:zen@freedbms.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">z=
en@freedbms.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:<b=
r>
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 PM professor rat <<a=
href=3D"mailto:pro2rat@yahoo.com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">pro2rat@yahoo.com.au</a>><br>
> > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > > NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & =
Genocide in Au<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fa=
ke"-mafia peeps forced the<br>
> > peeps<br>
> > > > > like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white pe=
eps, and we've got<br>
> > you<br>
> > > > > preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.<=
br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > You have the last word here.=C2=A0 Previously, Zen=
aan was controlling<br>
> > what it<br>
> > > > > was.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > No no, --I-- get the last word OK?<br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Can you bend the spy communities if we need?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Ha :D=C2=A0 CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I&#=
39;m so bent, I'd only<br>
> > manage to straighten it out ;)<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> I hear a yes!<br>
<br>
You're just hearing what you want to hear.</blockquote></div></div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
> I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to.<b=
r>
<br>
Please describe this force and/or people forcing you, and how they or it is=
forcing you, in as much detail as you can.<br></blockquote></div></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A=
round 2014 I ran into a use of human trafficking by law enforcement and som=
ething else, to manipulate activists and harm their communities.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I experienced extensive torture an=
d brainwashing to force me into silence.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">I am still re-experiencing that.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">These re-experiences, during my multi-day psychot=
ic break tonight, holds the forces and people making me post to this list.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I may be able to find a =
way to reduce my posting to the list when I don't want to, by repeatedl=
y expressing the first two paragraphs I just wrote above, which may work be=
cause it associates breaking the silence with the behavior I am trying to s=
top.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It's actually ver=
y traumatic.=C2=A0 Can you give me the respect of hearing and valuing the t=
ruth in what I say, whether it be emotional or literal?</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
> The<br>
> words are generally not the ones I want to convey.<br>
<br>
Then you should consider saying less or nothing at all until your thoughts =
are clear.</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
You say very strange things sometimes.<br>
<br>
<br>
> I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I=
talk<br>
> to.=C2=A0 I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared t=
o talk about<br>
> organized crime and corruption.<br>
> <br>
> I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy =
Person" ,<br>
> gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the<=
br>
> accreditation process with flying colors.=C2=A0 Maybe it would be fun =
to post a<br>
> screenshot.<br>
> <br>
> Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretl=
y<br>
> mind controlling the participants,<br>
<br>
You sound quite deluded.=C2=A0 You might strongly caution yourself against =
believing that which you cannot verify, and in general you ought advise you=
rself against attempts to control others in any way other than plain and si=
mple communication which directly engages their conscious mind - talking, e=
mailing, asking simple questions, that sort of thing.<br>
<br>
Manipulation is manipulation, whatever the name you use -- surely the healt=
hier approach is things like educate, question, possibly inform of some fac=
ts, e.g. "are you aware of XYZ?"<br>
<br>
Some folks call manipulation "black magic" or possibly "whit=
e magic" but in both cases, with karmic penalties upon the manipulator=
.=C2=A0 Perhaps consider this.<br>
<br>
<br>
> and failed to attend any crucially<br>
> important talks.<br>
> <br>
> Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_.=C2=
=A0 I could<br>
> just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating=
<br>
> torture patterns forever.<br>
> <br>
> Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't =
do what<br>
> is desired.=C2=A0 But doesn't that spread harm?=C2=A0 I'm worr=
ied it could stress<br>
> people.=C2=A0 And reveal control, giving me away?<br>
><br>
> So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is e=
asier<br>
> to cover up.<br>
> <br>
> And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber abo=
ut it<br>
> everywhere!<br>
> <br>
> Which is, of course, the actual job.=C2=A0 To disrupt the communities =
without<br>
> regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc.<br=
>
> <br>
> To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friend=
ly<br>
> communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth=
, as<br>
> a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities.=C2=A0 Giving=
them<br>
> direction and leadership!<br>
> <br>
> But I don't think that's a good idea.=C2=A0 It could stress an=
d worry people!<br>
<br>
<br>
You sound like a deluded nutcase.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Great.=C2=A0 I have proof of a lot of this=
and want to free a lot of "nutcases" who are actually mafia targ=
ets.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">About a third of th=
e symptoms of schizophrenia are paranoia.=C2=A0 Paranoia comes from extensi=
ve persistent danger.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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